Studs Terkel interviews the artist Gene Hall who created "The Black Christ Not Worthy Of Its Cross" and the head of the Loyola University Sociology Department, Dr. Paul Mundy, who used the title and painting reproduction to spark classroom discussions. Hall describes the creation of his 6 ft tall by 2 1/2 feet wide painting and how seeing the color of Christ diminishes Christ. You don't see Christ when you see color. Hall uses barbed wire instead of thorns in the painting to signify there is no time in painting, it is up to date.

An Episcopal priest, Thomas Hayes, talks about the Vietnam War deserters who fled to Stockholm. Unlike Canada, Sweden offered asylum and publicly welcomed resisters. According to Thomas, the men who went to Stockholm worked jobs and some took classes. Thomas also explained that the deserters never put down those who were fighting in the war.

Who's guilty for the death of 10,000 peasant farmers in El Salvador, the group of Father Don Hedley, Sister Kay Kelly, Rene Golden and Secundine Ramirez want to know. The fight and struggle for basic human rights has been going on in El Salvador for many, many years. The most recent tragic deaths of the four Catholic missionaries were because they sided with the poor.

Jonathan Spence, author and Yale University history professor, talks about his book "God's Chinese Son: The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom of Hong Xiuquan." He discusses Hong Xiuquan who believed himself to be the son of God. Spence begins his interview explores how Christianity came to China and how Hong came into contact with its teachings. He explains Hong's belief that the Qing dynasty was an enemy government that needed to be overthrown which led to the Taiping Rebellion.

German theologian Heinrich Gruber and pastor Howard Schomer discuss Nazi Germany and resistance

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John A. McDermott and Sister Mary Peters discuss Catholic Church's Participation in Civil Rights Movement. Includes interview with unknown Catholic man opposed to nuns' and priests' involvement. Includes song "It Isn't Nice" by Judy Collins.

Interview with Rev. George Morey and Jim Lee Osborne. They discuss southern country living and compare it to urban life and stereotypes. Studs reads a short excerpt from an article written by Mike Royko, columnist from the Chicago Tribune, who also interviewed Jim Lee Osborne. Also includes a short excerpt from an interview with Billy Jo Gatewood, another Appalachian transplant to Chicago.

Studs interviews Dr. Timothy Leary about the three stages of the psychadelic experience: turning on, tuning in, and dropout. Leary discusses how his life changed from being a successful psychologist and professor at Harvard to renewing his life as a religious teacher. He shares how the drug LSD is used in the tribal communities who turn on and also explains the values of those who practice turning on. Leary also describes other methods used to turn on, which he considers a religious experience. Studs reads what Richard Goldstein said about Dr. Leary.

Interviewing Norman Thomas on the occasion of his 80th birthday.