Former public school teacher Patrick Zimmerman continues discussing his alternative teaching methods for childhood education in low-income and underrepresented communities in Chicago. Zimmerman discusses how the scientific emphasis of schooling today is stifling a child’s success in the classroom and calls instead for a balance between a scientific approach and a free-school approach.

Former public school teacher Patrick Zimmerman discusses education and the free school movement for low-income and underrepresented communities in Chicago. Zimmerman discusses his time spent as a public school teacher and how this inspired his transition to teaching using alternative schooling methods in childhood education.

Poet Lucien Stryk discusses Zen poetry and Zen philosophy. Styrk focuses this conversation on “Satori," a Buddhist term for “the awakening”, and its influence on Zen philosophy. Styrk also discusses and reads from a book edited by him and Takashi Ikemoto entitled "Zen: Poems, Prayers, Sermons, Anecdotes, Interviews." Stryk reads a poem from “Triumph of the Sparrow” by Shinkichi Takahashi. Studs plays "His Eye is on the Sparrow" - Mahalia Jackson (1958).

Interviewing Shelby Taylor, Paul Goren, Jean Tucker, Paul McCree from Metro High School in Chicago, Ill.

Condit wrote the book The Chicago School of Architecture: A History of Commercial and Public Building in the Chicago Area, 1875-1925, and English edited The Testament of Stone: Themes of Idealism and Indignation from the Writings of Louis Sullivan.

Interviewing at the Saint Mary's Center for Learning, an alternative school on the West Side of Chicago, with students Theresa Gonzales, Joan Perry, Cheryl Petrats and teachers Janice Eritch, Rozelle Nesbit, Sister Elaine Shuster and a parent, Mrs. Lori Waslewski.

Discussing the role of the teacher and the Chicago Junior College teachers' grievances with Dr. Mary Mainwaring, Gordon Murray, Dr. Peter Senn and Dr. Morris Springer.