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The way groups of Black and white people talk is the topic of Tom Kochman's book, "Black and White Styles in Conflict". White people, says Kochman, will have a discussion about items of disagreement. Black people will be more confrontational with the disagreement. Kochman also talks about white people practicing self control of repression. Mahalia Jackson is brought up as an example of when she sings, she demonstrates her words with her body movements.
Studs interviews Phyl Garland about her book "Sound of Soul." They discuss the history of music and how black music influenced white music. Studs reads a quote from her book where she quoted Lerone Bennett. Garland also reads from her book a few times. They discuss how music changed over time for blacks from spirituals to slave songs to the blues because it was a reflection of their lives. Garland explains how blacks used music to help them through their trials and frustrations.