David Lewis, Canadian politician, discusses Canada's domestic and foreign affairs, including their relationship with America. He also spends some time talking about Canadian socialism including universal health insurance.

The businessman and author expounds on the concepts introduced in his book, The Human Cougar. He and Studs talk about the lives of working drifters and the American ideal of personal independence. (Recording engineer's note: some dropout and ambient noise)*Please note: some sections have been edited out from the original recording due to copyright considerations