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Content Warning: This conversation has the presence of outdated, biased, offensive language. Rather than remove this content, we present it in the context of twentieth-century social history to acknowledge and learn from its impact and to inspire awareness and discussion. Loneliness and hardships of both fitting in and finding a job are covered in the continuation of Horace Cayton's, "Long Old Road: An Autobiography." By living in a middle class home in Seattle with a full time Japanese servant, Cayton was seen as better off than most people.
Terkel interviews Gordon Zahn about war and peace.
One's conscience, morals and religion are all apart of Gordon Zahn's book, "In Solitary Witness: The Life and Death of Franz Jagerstatter". Zahn talks about who Jagerstatter was and what made him decide to say "No" to Hitler's army. Jagerstatter chose to lay with the community of saints rather than kill Jewish people.
Gordon Zahn continues to talk about his book, "In Solitary Witness: The Life and Death of Franz Jagerstatter". When doing his research for the book, it puzzled Zahn to find out that very few young people in Jaggerstatt's home village knew who Franz Jaggerstatt was. Zahn explained Jaggerstatt knew he was doing the right thing by objecting to Hitler's army because a Catholic priest had done the same thing.
Who were these ordinary people who killed and what made them do what they did are among the questions answered in Daniel Goldhagen's book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust". Jews were in league with the devil and their alleged evil came from their biology. It was believed, for the good of the country, to get rid of the German threat, the Jews had to be exterminated, according to Goldhagen.