The writer sits down with Studs to discuss his most recent book, The Fight - about the heavyweight championship boxing match between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, which took place in Kinshasa, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo).*Please note: some sections have been edited out from the original recording due to copyright considerations 

Charles Grant discusses painter George Bellows; also includes anecdotes about his life, including being the first passenger on an airplane and meeting Buffalo Bill. Captain Herbert Anderson's conversation begins at 34:44.