Discussing the book "The celluloid closet: homosexuality in the movies" with the author Vito Russo.

Dan McCarthy and Max Smith discuss their lives including the differences between growing up gay in different races. They also discuss religion, employment and housing issues they have encountered. Part of an earlier interview with Henry Weimhoff is played.

The military's attitude toward gay people is what's covered in Allan Berube's book, "Coming Out Under Fire: The History of Gay Men and Women in World War II." For some people, hiding their true identity was necessary because they would have been discharged by the military.